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The Ball-Bearing Electric Motor (2003)(electricstuff.co.uk)

33 pointsfn42 posted 10 days ago9 Comments
9 Comments:
nippoo said 10 days ago:

Sadly the premise that it operates on a thermal principle has been pretty much debunked - it operates on electromagnetism, due to the induced EMF when the ball bearing rotates through a magnetic field caused by the current through it. Here’s a paper describing the effect (which has been experimentally verified)... http://www.physics.princeton.edu/~mcdonald/examples/motor.pd...

I built one of these at university as a research project and it works well (albeit drawing a huge amount of current!). Interestingly enough it works just as well in either direction, depending which way you give it an initial push - the polarity of the DC terminals doesn’t matter at all!

tzakrajs said 10 days ago:

I don’t see how anyone could have ever thought it was anything but electromagnetism. What a strange inversion of thought.

mikepurvis said 10 days ago:

The parent is replying to the article itself, which describes in glorious detail the apparent principle of operation. The youtube video linked downthread also has a description with the same thermal expansion explanation.

nippoo said 10 days ago:

Sadly the premise that it operates on a thermal principle has been pretty much debunked - it operates instead on electromagnetism, due to the induced EMF when the ball bearing rotates through a magnetic field caused by the current through it. Here’s a paper describing the effect (which has been experimentally verified)... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20415755

I built one of these at university as a research project and it works well (albeit drawing a huge amount of current!). Interestingly enough it works just as well in either direction, depending which way you give it an initial push - the polarity of the DC terminals doesn’t matter at all!

kordlessagain said 10 days ago:

Roobert33 on YouTube demonstrates this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1xnQ9gWy1o

ggm said 10 days ago:

I sort-of feel that anything which uses electricity purely for a thermal effect, is actually in the carnot engine space and not actually "electric" in any meaningful sense of the word. They could have modified a stanley steamer to boil water electrically, and made similar claims (ball bearings aside)

But undenyably very .. cool?

Taniwha said 10 days ago:

Well he does claim it's a thermal engine, not an electric one .... and it runs, um, not-cool

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seiferteric said 10 days ago:

I wonder if you could put a current regulator on it that would provide the minimum current needed to achieve a certain RPM. Seems like the heat issue could just be that after it reaches its maximum speed, the excess current is just wastedin ohmic heating.